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Documentary: 'Occupation: Dreamland'

Filmmakers embed with the U.S. Army in Iraq to find out 'what the hell is going on?'

By the Hot Zone Team, Mon Jan 8, 6:52 PM ET

Note: This is the third in a series of special documentary features on the Hot Zone. We'll be posting interviews with filmmakers along with excerpts from their films, which reflect some of the themes and issues covered on this site. Bookmark the Hot Zone and be sure to check back in the coming days for more. 

In 2004, filmmaking team Garrett Scott and Ian Olds traveled to the Middle East with one goal: try to make sense of what was happening in

Iraq.

The two men embedded with the 82nd Airborne division of the U.S. Army, living in "Dreamland" — the forward operating base for the unit, named after a former Baath party resort in the area.

During their embed, Scott and Olds captured a very real look at what it means for soldiers to be an occupying force in a foreign country.

Over the next few days, the Hot Zone will feature select scenes from "Occupation: Dreamland." We'll also run an interview with filmmaker Ian Olds where we discuss not only his documentary, but also the death of his filmmaking partner, Garrett Scott, who died of a heart attack shortly after "Occupation Dreamland" was finished.

The trailer for "Occupation: Dreamland" and excerpts from our interview with Olds are below.

 
 

HOT ZONE: What gave you and Garrett the idea to make this film?  

 

IAN OLDS: Both Garrett and I felt that the world was even more of a different place after the invasion of Iraq than after Sept. 11th.

To me it seemed like new war, new kinds of consequences. It was the idea of a preemptive war and all of that, but there was a real sense that we had, sort of a simple question of, "What the hell is going on?"

At the same time, we became aware of this embedding program that was in place. So it was that simple question and the realization that that program existed. We also thought that it wasn't being taken advantage of in a lot of ways. We saw it was being used by people for news broadcasts but they had different constraints and different obligations than filmmakers have in terms of the turn around of stories.

We wanted to see if we could go in and see the war first-hand from the perspective of the soldiers. Also, we felt that people often represent soldiers in terms of why they do what they do, but no one really seemed to be asking them adult questions and actually seeing what they do and what they think about what they do.

HOT ZONE: How did you get connected to these soldiers and why did you go to Fallujah?

IAN OLDS: Since we were completely independent, when we got there, we couldn't set up anything through the

Pentagon or through the defense department. So, we just had to arrive. We flew to Jordan, hired a driver, and drove to Baghdad with our only funding at that point being airplane tickets, body armor and tape stock. At that point, we just starting asking; we made good contacts at the public affairs offices of different units to see who would take us.

We ended up not being able to get into where we planned to be, which was with this unit in Baghdad following the National Guard. We ended up instead on a three-day embed with these guys out in Fallujah. At that point, Fallujah was known in Iraq as sort of the hottest spot but hadn't yet been put on the map back in the States.

We were there for three days and then it was literally a process of asking if we could stay longer. We stayed a couple more weeks and then a couple more and the higher-ups really never got too much into what we were doing. They asked us what our plan was and we told them we're doing "a day in the life of American soldiers." Because the squad we were with seemed to like us and we weren't getting in their way, they let us stay. So the guys we ended up with, we were assigned to them.

I think one of the things that is striking about the film, I hope, is the kind of intimacy with the soldiers and that was achieved because of how long we could be there; we were there for six weeks with them.

HOT ZONE: The film is incredibly intimate. I was surprised about the kinds of things the soldiers were comfortable saying on camera. There was one scene where the men are involved in a heated conversation about politics, and in another they speak really openly about their plans to not re-enlist. How did you get them to open up so much?

IAN OLDS: It was fascinating. It happened in several ways. One, because we were there for a longer period of time, we didn't have the problem that many news reporters who are there for maybe a week or so have. They have to turn stories around really fast, so they start out asking really pointed questions. We didn't do that, because we had more time, so we just spent time hanging out with them. When we broached certain subjects early on, sometimes they would get a little defensive, so we would just put that subject away for a while and watch TV with them for a week.

Also, they knew we were a documentary, and we told them it wouldn't be released for at least a year and a half. Some of the guys knew they would be out of the army by then and had things that they had been wanting to say but felt they couldn't say to a news person because it would be in print or on TV the next day. They could get in trouble or get the people they were working with in trouble.

Again, because of the time thing, even people that might have been hesitant to speak changed. After we went out on a mission which involved some sort of a firefight or after a bomb went off, there was certainly some kind of bond there; we were experiencing what they went through - at least a small fraction of it - so there was a trust that developed around. The thing is if you are around people long enough, people can't just keep up their walls for so long.

They were really smart and savvy guys though. One of them came to us at the end and said, "I know that from all of the things that we have said you can screw us and we ask that you don't."

So they were very conscious of that possibility, but they ended up all being very happy with the film.

To learn more about "Occupation: Dreamland" or to buy a copy of the DVD, visit the film's Web site here.

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1
I THINK ALL of our fighting men and women should beable to tell what they think of the iraq war, without being put down if they disagre , how many wont com home? how many will be cripple for life? and how many more will be suffering from being brain washed? i disagree with this war, it's not ours it's a bush war of getting even, and because of the oil, it all adds up to BIG MONEY that our soldiers are dying for not for us here at home waiting and hopeing they all come home in one piece, like BUSH said many times it's the haves against the have not's, BUT THERE IS A PAYBACK! and i'm waiting along with millions of other americans for that day!
Posted by daseymaes on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 7:57 AM ET
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Don’t forget, this war is a war on terror and from what I remember we were all united for it (even Watada). Before anyone begins to criticize President Bush and the "battle" in Iraq (battle because this is a global war that hasn't just quite been fully realized or acknowledged), you should all inform yourselves as to why Iraq is a key country for both sides of the coin (in which the coin represents those in favor of Islamic World Domination and those who oppose it). KEY PERPETRATOR here is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran. HIS OBJECTIVE: apocalyptic realization for the onset of Islamic World Domination. PURPOSE: return of the 12th Imam with "restoration of a peaceful world after cleansing and removal of all non-islam and the destruction of Israel and of the infidel". METHODS: systematically overcoming Western-controlled/influenced countries and states in all parts of the world; converting nations to islam by threat of force; controlling the lifesource (oil) of all industrialized nations (i.e. the invasion [not necessarily with a legitimate 'army' but by an influx of terroristic activities to demoralize and influence the targeted country] of all oil producing countries in the middle east, including Saudi Arabia) so as to further weaken and handicap any opposition of this islamic movement; developement/acquisition (this is ongoing) and use of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons against all opposing countries and to threaten/manipulate those countries who do not show resistance but who nevertheless possess non-islamic beliefs and law; Iranian constitutional breakdown "a coup d'état" -- currently underway in the Iranian government and a prerequisite for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's delusional "self-proclaimed calling" for facilitating the return of the 12th Imam; destruction of Israel (for as long as Israel is in existence, the 12th Imam cannot return – this is in the Islamic writings); publicly supporting and providing false propaganda to influence the masses of the "evilness" portrayed by Israel, USA and all of our allies to justify jihad and our destruction; Mahmoud Ahmadinejad envisions a non-industrialized world of a single religion of islam and supports the murder of millions upon millions of nonislamic people worldwide for under islam, no other faith will be tolerated (this is also in the Islamic writings). Either by decades of jihad or nuclear holocaust, Mamoud Ahmadinejad is determined to make this a realization in his lifetime. SUPPORTING PARTIES: Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela , Saddam-controlled-Iraq and a few others (the true enemies of the USA and all freedom-loving nations and democracies). IN SUMMARY: Iraq is a vital key country for both sides. Securing it by the US and its allies will make it more difficult for the islamic movement to realize its objective and in a sense will keep Iran at bay because it will give the US and our allies a strategically significant position should force be needed against Iran, and the US-lead coalition will ensure that the current countries marketing the natural resource of oil will continue by those countries presently in control of the oil, and thus ensure that it is made available for trade with all countries of the world. Further, retreating from Iraq will only fuel their cause and view us as weak and defenseless (we are already divided in this country, and our enemies view that as a win for them), and Iraq will be controlled by this Islamoradical movement (lead by Iran) thereby becoming one more step closer to achieving their objective of Islamic World Domination. Lastly, will we retreat from other countries where we'll see a surge of this aggression (case in point, Somalia, Lebannon, Afghanistan, Israel to name a few)? We are currently seeing world-wide islamic militant movements (“jihad” has already been declared against the US and our allies) and we as a nation need to unite and confront this threat now, starting with Iraq. The information is out there and I recommend everyone to take a moment to do the search and see for yourselves what is now before us. You'll be able to connect the dots and see for yourselves that this threat is real. Iraq is only the first battle in this long and difficult war and we all need to accept that. Whether you are a person of faith or not, the world is in the mists of a 'holy war' perpetrated by religious fanatics/extremists.--signed-- a proud, hardworking US citizen: who is struggling with his own faith in christ; who admires and supports the US military and their families (thank you so much for your service); who refuses to be blind, deaf and ignorant of current events.
Posted by dieldrin6 on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 8:28 AM ET
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What do you mean by freedom loving nations,dieldrin6? Can you please mention non freedom loving nations? You guys live in your delusions. Has Iran ever invaded any country? Who goes round the world destroying other people’s civilizations? Did Iran attack Japan, Vietnam, Somalia, Cambodia, Peru, Columbia, Phillipines, Panama, etc?
Posted by toyins on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:00 AM ET
4
War on terror, dieldrin6? Osma is, Saddam wasn't.... Bush terrorises me more than Huessien ever did? Maybe we should in vade D.C.?
Posted by razewun on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:16 AM ET
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SUPPORTING PARTIES: Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela , Saddam-controlled-Iraq and a few others (the true enemies of the USA and all freedom-loving nations and democracies). Geez dieldrin anyone you miss there like France. Pre-emptive warfare......isn't that what Hitler called the invasion of France in WWII? Perhap the best way to protect the US is to stop acting just about as imperialistic as we were in 1960. Democracy building.....anyone see Bush telling tghe Saudis to throw out the King and vote? If we listened to the Palestinians we might find out they were screwed by the British in 1948 as much as the Israelis were rewarded. Disease in Africa....Do we allow it because unlike SE Asia, Africa affords us little low priced labor and actually those folks is in the way of taking their minerals. Global Warming......why do we allow others to pollute because they can say the US repudiated the Kyoto Agreement? The average American is a wonderful, caring person but the World judges us by our Corporate Pigs. If the greatest Country in the World ACTED like the GREATEST country then those who hate us would be in dwindling numbers and when America asked for help...by god the World would stand up as one to help. Under the Marshall Plan America was loved and even rebuilt it's ENEMIES. Today we refuse to even negotiate with them and are laughed at and hated. Quite the improvement over 50-60 years. Wage War on the World idjit and the World will defeat you.
Posted by anothertanklessjob@sbcglobal.net on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:19 AM ET
6
It is a pity that this stuff is nearly two tears old.... still National hubris does indeed require such a delay.
Posted by razewun on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:22 AM ET
7
It amazes me how some people think Ahmadinejad is some type of emperor with incredible power to shape global events. The truth is that he has been president of Iran for less than two years and his political allies were just soundly defeated in the recent Iranian elections by a host of more moderate candidates. Unless there is a dialogue that is reality-based, there will never be an opportunity to address the real and dangerous issues that face this world. for instance, there is little to no cooperation between the Islamic countries that are being claimed as enemies in a holy war, and little to no industrialization in these countries that would make them any type of real military threat on a global basis. Now, Russia and China are different, but they have no desire to support any type of Islamic World Domination, other than to exploit the resources of the oil-rich nations, which is not that different an agenda than our own.
Posted by bobby_c_50 on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:25 AM ET
8
After getting all the information I could about Iraq, and Iran it became obvious to me that Iraq was a buffer between Iran and Saudia Arabia. The real enemy has always been Iran rather than Iraq and I hate to think that the president got us involved in Iraq because of the plot to kill former President George Bush. If any attack should have been attempted, it should have been done in Iran rather than Iraq. There is forces there friendly to the United States which could take control of the government there. This should have only been attempted after finishing up in Afganistan.
Posted by semco72057 on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:28 AM ET
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toyins on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:00 AM ET,,,,,,,,, who do you think is supporting AlQaida, Hamaz, Hezbola (to name a few)??? if you cant see irans or syrias involvment with terrorism, and therefore think that iran isnt 'invading' anyone, then you are clearly lost...
Posted by dieldrin6 on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:29 AM ET
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razewun on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:16 AM ET,,,,,,,,,,,, and guess where Bin Laden is currently: Iran. our mission was to confront terror and any country that supported it and or harbored terrorists... saddam had openly advocated use of terrorism agains the united states, so he was a good candidate... review your history and you will see that is so.... and President Bush should frighten you (and all you pacifists) because he sees the threat and is not simply turning a blind eye as many of you wish he would.... regardless of your position regarding 9/11, AlQaida hit our home land for the second time... would you all prefer a 3rd strike before we stand up against this threat?? its a struggle for this Nation's very existence... why can't you guys see this?? i believe the majority of the posters here underestimate our enemies.... jihad doesn't just mean suicide killing... but a killing until all infidel is wiped-out (nevermind your political sidedness) in the name of allah.. a holy war... these guys are not driven my a governement, but by a 'god'... they are a determined enemy and will not stop until they have met their objective...
Posted by dieldrin6 on Tue, Jan 9, 2007 9:40 AM ET

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