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'Occupation: Dreamland' Part III

'Be careful of Fallujah'

By the Hot Zone Team, Fri Jan 12, 9:42 PM ET

Note: This is the third in a series of special documentary features on the Hot Zone. We'll be posting interviews with filmmakers along with excerpts from their films, which reflect some of the themes and issues covered on this site. Bookmark the Hot Zone and be sure to check back in the coming days for more. 

In the third clip from "Occupation: Dreamland," young Iraqis are outraged that American soldiers have detained a Muslim woman. They say this cannot be done in a place like Fallujah. They warn, "This is Fallujah. Be careful of Fallujah."

Almost as an confirmation to that threat, an RPG attack occurs a few blocks from the soldiers and the filmmakers. The soldiers scramble to find the location of the explosion and the combatants behind it. Viewers get the sense of how futile this is; the soldiers have little information and the insurgents will probably be gone by the time they find anything.

We continue our conversation with filmmaker Ian Olds below, as he describes how he was never afraid of IED explosions until it was too late.


HOT ZONE: Do viewers see you in the film? Were you protected like the soldiers were? You were capturing real explosions and gunfire on camera; were you scared?

IAN OLDS: We wore civilian clothes and we did have body armor. We borrowed the helmets they were wearing because we didn't have our own. In terms of the fear, I was very scared. I had never ever been in that kind of environment before, so the way both Garrett and I dealt with it was to look around and see how the soldiers were reacting.

HOT ZONE: But they're soldiers.

IAN OLDS: Yeah, that's true, but somehow that was the only marker I had.

The first time anything ever happened — we heard some gunfire or an RPG a couple of blocks away — I just felt this incredible surge of adrenaline which I realized was kind of dangerous because I didn't feel afraid.

So, I looked around at the soldiers to see how they were responding to make sure I wasn't exposing myself in some unsafe way. The moments are so quick that often the fear about it would happen later, not at the time.

For instance, we had always heard about IEDs so we were conscious of what they meant, but after one actually went off in front of us, that definitely changed how it felt going out. After that, you look at every piece of dirt a little differently.

It's such a specific feeling when you can actually feel the blast wave from something or the way it sucks the air out of you. So, after you have that visceral experience, it wasn't quite the same going out again. During that actual moment though, it was hard to be afraid because it was so quick.

HOT ZONE: Another thing that is clear in the film is the language barrier. There is an almost comical scene at the beginning where the soldiers are mimicking a bomb with their hands trying to ask the locals, who don't speak English, if they had seen any. There are other cases where it's clear through subtitles that the translators don't always convey the right message to the Iraqis or to the soldiers. What did the language barrier mean for you and for them?

IAN OLDS: That's a very important part of it. They had very few translators for such a large number of people. A platoon would often share one translator and they might be spread out so there are often occasions when an American soldier who speaks none of the language will have to convey a point and it rarely worked.

Also, some of the translators didn't have very good skills. Sometimes they didn't speak very good English. So later on, watching the footage, you could see whole conversations going in two different directions because one little miscommunication would start to expand. By the end of the conversation, they'd be talking about two separate things.

There is one situation where early on in the film where a guy ends up being taken away with a bag over his head. If you watch the footage you realize it really comes down to a miscommunication. What happened was he told the soldier "I'm with you; I'm not against you." The translator translates it as, "I want to work for the U.S.A. Army." The solider interprets it as being this smug remark, zips him up and takes him away because of that.

You realize this inability to speak a language or understand the subtlety of communication is kind of disastrous.

To learn more about "Occupation: Dreamland" or to buy a copy of the DVD, visit the film's Web site here.

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1
Read my lips: "R O U G E A D M I N I S T R A T I O N" & that's no reference to Left/Right/Reps/Dems – we got hooked up to the wrong war at the wrong time for the wrong reasons. even the Afghan hounds know that... in fact I can hear them barking with laughter as I type. Still, 'we' broke it... 'we' fix it. Bring on Compulsory Conscription & send out troops for a massive Peace Keeping mission? After 10 yrs of sanctions, no-fly zones & ariel bombing, I'm sure the Iraqi people will be only too glad to have us on their soil - It'll give 'em something to aim at. As you read this, Oil contracts are being signed over to US companies, when the Iraqis find out the terms & conditions of these deals, they'll very likely unite against the occupiers & who can blame 'em? ...hope the 'winners' behind GWB think the price was worth paying? Guess if your business is Oil/Arms then it was a win/win no brainer. bet THEIR families never signed-up for service...
Posted by freedoms.fried on Fri, Jan 12, 2007 10:41 PM ET
2
"DAD, WILL THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ EVER GET TO ENJOY THE VAST WEALTH THAT THEIR OIL-FIELDS ARE SET TO PROVIDE?" ––––– "YES SON – BUT FIRST WE NEED TO TAKE OUR SLICE-OF-THE-PIE – AFTER ALL, WE'RE THE ONES HANDING THEM FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY & AS YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T COME CHEAP 'COS 'FREEDOM AIN'T FREE' – THEN OF COURSE THERE'LL BE AN INVOICE FOR THE COST OF THE WAR. HALLIBURTON DON'T WORK FOR IRAQI DINARS YOU KNOW!" ––––– "BUT WHAT IF NASTY-EVIL-TERRORISTS DECIDE TO BLOW-UP THE OIL-PIPES? " ––––– "WELL SON – THAT'S A TRICKY ONE – I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE – APPESE THEM WITH A SLICE-OF-THE-PIE..." ––––– "BUT DAD, THEY MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN THE MONEY – THEY MIGHT JUST WANT US OFF THEIR LAND &..." ––––– "LOOK SON, GIVE ME A BREAK... & GET ME A BEER...GEEZ"
Posted by freedoms.fried on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 8:46 AM ET
3
"DAD, WHAT'S A 'TERRORIST'?" ––––– "WELL SON, IT'S SIMPLE: A TERRORIST IS A PERSON OR GROUP THAT REFUSES TO ACCEPT AMERICAN DOLLARS & CHALLENGES OUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO ATTACK IT'S TERRITORY – THESE PEOPLE ARE FREEDOM HATERS WHO WILL STOP AT NOTHING IN ORDER TO PREVENT US FROM FUNDING THEIR CORRUPT & TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENTS IN OUR QUEST FOR 'BLACK GOLD' – THESE EVIL-DOERS NEED TO BE HUNTED DOWN, ROOTED OUT & BLOWN TO SMITHEREENS UNTIL THEY ARE DEAD! DEAD!! DEAD!!!.." ––––– "IS THAT WHAT JESUS WOULD DO?" ––––– "RIGHT!!! STFU & GET TO YOUR ROOM – YOU'RE GROUNDED!!!"
Posted by freedoms.fried on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 8:47 AM ET
4
....AD INFINITUM.
Posted by freedoms.fried on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 9:21 AM ET
5
I don't completely consider Bush's idealism to be a front for oil theft but he is clear that he considers the world to be a market that must have democratic forms of government because he knows better than most that absolute power gives you an economic edge and democracy is a check on absolute power. The Iraq gamble was to create a stable democracy that would be an model and inspiration for other adjacent nations to follow(carrot) and our show of military hegemony(stick). Remember when Libyia ditched its WMDs? The Bush administration quickly showcased it as a result of fear of our militaristic resolve. Of course things went south in Iraq because the President doesn't understand that our democracy works because religion and the state are separated. So we are arming and training Iraqis to fight for their religion. The proper euthemism is "sectarian" but let not forget this is about religion. The real power brokers in Iraq are clerics who feign a purely religious position but know that every sermon is really orders. So the solution in this region will be the liberal secular dismissal of Islam from the affairs of state. Expect this to take decades and only from within.
Posted by ricinro85212 on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 9:45 AM ET
6
Usama Bin Laden stated all he had to do was convince the U.S. that the fighting was not worth it. The same thing happened in Vietnam where thousands of U.S. and Vietnamese were killed because the left-wing media did their bidding. The left has convinced many that this is a war about oil, revenge, and countless other whack job notions. Bottom line is we are in a fight for the next several generations if we don't resolve this situation now. The Dems continue to embolden the terrorists and their pasties, the liberal media, encourage them. Everytime you watch a Katie Couric or that senseless inaccurate CNN, and believe their dribble, you lend credibility to those that want to kill our families. This war is for real and it does not stop at the borders of Iraq. The left, even given the possibility that they mean well, have been aiding and abetting the enemy since the beginning of this war against terrorism. They can't defeat us on the battlefield. They don't need to. They have the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Time Magazine, etc. Pretty powerful group.
Posted by lilly.chloe@sbcglobal.net on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 12:16 PM ET
7
I can't get the videos to play, I get an error message on the bottom corner of the screen....Please help
Posted by mshuman01 on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 12:43 PM ET
8
Occupation : Dreamland should be free on the net to all americans!!
Posted by keaaumartins on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 1:30 PM ET
9
say what you will about Iraq, I have been there and have seen the good being done there, be careful of what the media shows. Remember bad news sells magazines and books.
Posted by mark1jimenez@sbcglobal.net on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 1:40 PM ET
10
We will not win this because here in the U.S. we have the wrong idea about this war. It is no longer our war to win in Iraq. We have to stabilize the capital as much as possible, train their army and then leave behind some advisers and get out of there. This is the Iraqi people's war now. Not ours. This isn't a football game and it's time for us to put our ego away before we defeat ourselves. We're so busy trying to show them that we're the big bad Americans that we don't even realize this isn't our war. You can't make a free democracy. You can only lay the foundations. Now it's up to the Iraqi people.
Posted by kennjhall@verizon.net on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 2:30 PM ET

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