And Tony "Snowjob" weighs in...... "What message does Congress intend to give?" asked White House spokesman Tony Snow. "And who does it think the audience is? Is the audience merely the president? Is it the voting American public or, in an age of instant communication, is it also al-Qaida?" WHO DOES IT THINK THE AUDIENCE IS?!!! What kind of a friggin moronic comment is that!!! LOL! "Is it also Al Qaida?".... Uh, yes Tony!...anyone who has eyes or ears...thanks for asking! LOL Your Maggot Masters have spawned a whole new generation of jihadists...well done GOP. Maybe you war profiteers should take your money and run, before it's too late! Hide well...the world is getting smaller and smaller every day! I guess next couple of generations can stick around and clean up your mess, if any of us are left in 20 years.

Those men trying to get the others to re-enlist. Were they pimps in civilian life? They sure act like it. Bring them home--NOW.

I would personally be very offended to be one of those guys in the army right now. According to that speach, the Army apparently thinks they are all stupid and immature and wouldn't be able to get a job or go to school or make a life for themselves - they'd just go out and play and drink beer and waste their money and end up on the streets. I'm sure most of them would be just fine. He's right, they do need to think about their future, what I don't understand is why he doesn't seem to think they're capable of doing that yet? they are adults after all and can decide for themselves that they are done with killing and putting themselves in danger for nothing.

FOR YOU MORONS WHO THINK THE GOP 'SPAWNED A WHOLE NEW GENERATION OF JIHADISTS': In his just-released, absorbing, and excellent book, Understanding Jihad (University of California Press), David Cook of Rice University dismisses the low-grade debate that has raged since 9/11 over the nature of jihad – whether it is a form of offensive warfare or (more pleasantly) a type of moral self-improvement. Mr. Cook dismisses as "bathetic and laughable" John Esposito's contention that jihad refers to "the effort to lead a good life." Throughout history and at present, Mr. Cook definitively establishes, the term primarily means "warfare with spiritual significance." His achievement lies in tracing the evolution of jihad from Muhammad to Osama, following how the concept has changed through fourteen centuries. This summary does not do justice to Cook's extensive research, prolific examples, and thoughtful analysis, but even a thumbnail sketch suggests jihad's evolution. The Koran invites Muslims to give their lives in exchange for assurances of paradise. The Hadith (accounts of Muhammad's actions and personal statements) elaborate on the Koran, providing specific injunctions about treaties, pay, booty, prisoners, tactics, and much else. Muslim jurisprudents then wove these precepts into a body of law. During his years in power, the prophet engaged in an average of nine military campaigns a year, or one every five to six weeks; thus did jihad help define Islam from its very dawn. Conquering and humiliating non-Muslims was a main feature of the prophet's jihad. During the first several centuries of Islam, "the interpretation of jihad was unabashedly aggressive and expansive." After the conquests subsided, non-Muslims hardly threatened and Sufi notions of jihad as self-improvement developed in complement to the martial meaning. The Crusades, the centuries-long European effort to control the Holy Land, gave jihad a new urgency and prompted what Cook calls the "classical" theory of jihad. Finding themselves on the defensive led to a hardening of Muslim attitudes. The Mongol invasions of the thirteenth century subjugated much of the Muslim world, a catastrophe only partially mitigated by the Mongols' nominal conversion to Islam. Some thinkers, Ibn Taymiya (d. 1328) in particular, came to distinguish between true and false Muslims; and to give jihad new prominence by judging the validity of a person's faith according to his willingness to wage jihad. Nineteenth century "purification jihads" took place in several regions against fellow Muslims. The most radical and consequential of these was the Wahhabis' jihad in Arabia. Drawing on Ibn Taymiya, they condemned most non-Wahhabi Muslims as infidels (kafirs) and waged jihad against them. European imperialism inspired jihadi resistance efforts, notably in India, the Caucasus, Somalia, Sudan, Algeria, and Morocco, but all in the end failed. This disaster meant new thinking was needed. Islamist new thinking began in Egypt and India in the 1920s but jihad acquired its contemporary quality of radical offensive warfare only with the Egyptian thinker Sayyid Qutb (d. 1966). Qutb developed Ibn Taymiya's distinction between true and false Muslims to deem non-Islamists to be non-Muslims and then declare jihad on them. The group that assassinated Anwar El-Sadat in 1981 then added the idea of jihad as the path to world domination. The anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan led to the final step (so far) in this evolution. In Afghanistan, for the first time, jihadis assembled from around the world to fight on behalf of Islam. A Palestinian, Abdullah Azzam, became the theorist of global jihad in the 1980s, giving it an unheard-of central role, judging each Muslim exclusively by his contribution to jihad, and making jihad the salvation of Muslims and Islam. Out of this quickly came suicide terrorism and bin Laden. Mr. Cook's erudite and timely study has many implications, including these: The current understanding of jihad is more extreme than at any prior time in Islamic history. This extremism suggests that the Muslim world is going through a phase, one that must be endured and overcome, comparable to analogously horrid periods in Germany, Russia, and China. Jihad having evolved steadily until now, doubtless will continue to do so in the future. The excessive form of jihad currently practiced by Al-Qaeda and others could, Mr. Cook semi-predicts, lead to its "decisive rejection" by a majority of Muslims. Jihad then could turn into a non-violent concept. The great challenge for "moderate Muslims" (and their non-Muslim allies) is to make that rejection come about, and with due haste. I.E., KNOW THE HISTORY AND STOP BLAMING ANY POLITICAL FIGURE, LIB OR CON, OR ANY OTHER AMERICAN FOR THAT MATTER!! AND PLEASE STOP REVERBERATING THE SENSELESS LIB-SMACK WHICH FURTHER DIVIDES OUR NATION AGAINST THE ISLAMISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, dieldrin6, that was a very long and rambling. I hope you feel as though you are the great educator, you seemingly fancy yourself to be. However, you have completely missed the point. This President, and the GOP, have launched a pro-active war, without justification, on Iraq, under false pretenses. This is an action which could and should have been avoided. Unfortunately, this President, chose to start a war, unnecessarily. We as a nation, and a planet, are now suffering the consequences of this action. For you to pretend that our actions, in attacking a country that we had no business attacking, have no consequences is absurd. What exactly are you trying to assert? That we bombed the Iraqi people, and that there has been no anger nor resentment, as a result of this in the Muslim population of Iraq, other countries in the Middle East, and throughout the world, against our nation? You are missing the point. This isn't a problem of nomenclature, relating to the use of the word, "jihad". We, as a nation, misled by our President and his party, started a war we shouldn't have started. Call it what you will, the people in the nation we started a war with are not pleased, and are organizing to fight us. Our leaders did not understand the people of that nation or anticipate their response. It was foolish and wrong to start this war, and to support those who wanted to start it. We are now paying the consequence. Let me ask you a few questions, dieldrin6. You seem to be quite a scholar, so I'm sure you've looked up these figures already. How many barrels of proven oil reserves does the US have? How many barrels of oil does the US consume per annum? How many barrels of its own reserves does it consume per annum? Doing the math, how many years of US reserves are left? OK, next. What are the total reserves, in barrels, of global oil reserves? What is the current global consumption of oil in barrels per year? How many years of oil does the planet have left, extremely conservatively, using today's consumption rate, and not factoring into the equation the massively growing consumption of other nations like China? Do you know the answers to those questions? Have you ever taken the time to determine what our oil needs are, and whether or not this might be the primary motivation for war? I'm not saying it's a waste of time for you to focus on the history of the jihad, or the Muslim faith. Indeed, it is admirable, that you are at least attempting to understand the thinking of a people, that those in the leadership of our country assumed thought and believed just as we do. They don't, and we should understand that. However, our motivation for this war is not relating to faith, nor is it relating to democracy, and it certainly wasn't related to weapons of mass destruction or a terrorist threat. It was about oil, and if you take the time to research and understand the oil picture, I'm sure you will come to the same conclusion yourself. Unless you still believe in the Easter Bunny, of course.

Re enlistment I remember that well as what you see there is always done. They want you to stay in especially a majority of these soilders probably are on a four year enlistment. As well combat vets. and climbing in rank most are e-4 or e-5 in grade. And the higher ups telling them out in the world they will have it hard if not prepared all just words no more no less it means the soilders you seen there are getting short. Everyone has there thoughts about the Iraq conflict, no matter the goverments over all doing and cause back the soilders sailors marines. I support all our troops as well honor all those who have ever served. If they reenlist or do not that is the choice of a volunteer arms services. All the men you just seen already know what they are going to do way before the re up talks began.

Personally, I am thankful we have leadership that has the backbone to address problems we as a country face head-on. I would much rather have us fight those that hate us on their soil as opposed to doing it here. Go team!! I would also like to take this opportunity to thank those in service. Keep up the good work.

well in seeing all this hype on the internet i feel inclined to share from the soldiers points of view. I was one of those men sitting in that crowd of people listening to there lines. We were made to sit there and take it. basically they would tell us that we were worthless and that is the reason we joined and should stay in. I just recently view the video documentary, and it wasn't bad, but not totally truthful. We were not there to save anyone only to protect each other. And to answer another question hell no i didn't reenlist, i got out and am now making more money than i did when i was in. and no i am not a pimp.As for the group in which is in the documentary alpha company 1-505 PIR. Let me give you a little backround info on these boys. Most of us did have four year contracts and we were deployed twice since 2002 and in 2005 back to afganistan. The guys were not unpatriotic they were just tired of war and deployment. That @#$% tears families and people apart. Those men are there on there fourth tour in five years. I hope that the public doesn't view this documentary and use it for political debate on whether we should be there. We were then and still are surviving in or out. To any of the other airborne who knows Sargent Major DEBO there check the movie out it aint too bad.

Don’t forget, this war is a war on 'terror' and from what I remember we were all united for it. The past two administrations also had to deal with this islamic threat, not just this administration. Remeber Clinton's Desert-Fox?? "Oh yeah, but that wasn't about the 'oil', Saddam was really a horrible guy and 'was a threat to the world'", claim the clinton-ites. Before anyone begins to criticize President Bush and the "battle" in Iraq (battle because this is a global war that hasn't just quite been fully realized or acknowledged), you should all inform yourselves as to why Iraq is a key country for both sides of the coin (in which the coin represents those in favor of Islamic World Domination and those who oppose it). Acknowledge this: terrorism is a tactic. The enemy: Islam. To ignore this will undoubtedly lead to mass confusion. Understand our enemy; understand their objective; understand why the United States is the only world power capable of stopping them; understand that with or without 9/11 and with or without any Iraq War from Bush I to Clinton to Bush II, Islamic World Domination had been steady progressing. Whether it be 2001 or 2091, we would have had to confront them. KEY PERPETRATOR here is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran. HIS OBJECTIVE: apocalyptic realization for the onset of Islamic World Domination. PURPOSE: return of the 12th Imam with "restoration of a peaceful world after cleansing and removal of all non-islam and the destruction of Israel and of the infidel". METHODS: systematically overcoming Western-controlled/influenced countries and states in all parts of the world; converting nations to islam by threat of force; controlling the lifesource (oil) of all industrialized nations (i.e. the invasion [not necessarily with a legitimate 'army' but by an influx of terroristic activities to demoralize and influence the targeted country] of all oil producing countries in the middle east, including Saudi Arabia) so as to further weaken and handicap any opposition of this islamic movement; developement/acquisition (this is ongoing) and use of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons against all opposing countries and to threaten/manipulate those countries who do not show resistance but who nevertheless possess non-islamic beliefs and law; Iranian constitutional breakdown "a coup d'état" -- currently underway in the Iranian government and a prerequisite for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's delusional "self-proclaimed calling" for facilitating the return of the 12th Imam; destruction of Israel (for as long as Israel is in existence, the 12th Imam cannot return – this is in the Islamic writings); publicly supporting and providing false propaganda to influence the masses of the "evilness" portrayed by Israel, USA and all of our allies to justify jihad and our destruction; Mahmoud Ahmadinejad envisions a non-industrialized world of a single religion of islam and supports the murder of millions upon millions of nonislamic people worldwide for under islam, no other faith will be tolerated (this is also in the Islamic writings). Either by decades of jihad or nuclear holocaust, Mamoud Ahmadinejad is determined to make this a realization in his lifetime. SUPPORTING PARTIES: Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela , Saddam-controlled-Iraq and a few others (the true enemies of the USA and all freedom-loving nations and democracies). IN SUMMARY: Iraq is a vital key country for both sides. Securing it by the US and its allies will make it more difficult for the islamic movement to realize its objective and in a sense will keep Iran at bay because it will give the US and our allies a strategically significant position should force be needed against Iran, and the US-lead coalition will ensure that the current countries marketing the natural resource of oil will continue by those countries presently in control of the oil, and thus ensure that it is made available for trade with all countries of the world. Further, retreating from Iraq will only fuel their cause and view us as weak and defenseless (we are already divided in this country, and our enemies view that as a win for them), and Iraq will be controlled by this Islamoradical movement (lead by Iran) thereby becoming one more step closer to achieving their objective of Islamic World Domination. Lastly, will we retreat from other countries where we'll see a surge of this aggression (case in point, Somalia, Lebannon, Afghanistan, Israel to name a few)? We are currently seeing world-wide islamic militant movements (“jihad” has already been declared against the US and our allies) and we as a nation need to unite and confront this threat now, starting with Iraq. The information is out there and I recommend everyone to take a moment to do the search and see for yourselves what is now before us. You'll be able to connect the dots and see for yourselves that this threat is real. Iraq is only the first battle in this long and difficult war and we all need to accept that. Whether you are a person of faith or not, the world is in the mists of a 'holy war' perpetrated by religious fanatics/extremists. It is unfortunate, but the fact is, some of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 'chess game pieces' represent the oil reserves in the middle east. And he will use it in such a way to destroy our capability to defend ourselves. So is it really about the oil? No. Its about our survival and our very own existence. So shame on President Bush, right? Wrong. Be thankful we have leadership willing to address this threat and humbly doing so.

Anyone notice that there have been no more attacks on AMERICAN soil? You "war for oil" liberals make me sick!!! Yes, I am a veteran.