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SOMALIA ARCHIVE: Sept. 26 - Oct. 1, 2005

Hot Zone Flashback: African al-Qaida?

In a stunning series of events, a council of Islamists has wrested power from secular warlords in Somalia. Last September, Kevin Sites interviewed the man who now has been tapped to lead the council, hardline cleric Sheik Hassan Dahir Aweys.

By the Hot Zone Team, Mon Jun 26, 3:16 PM ET

NOTE: In this story, originally posted Sept. 27, 2005, Kevin Sites examined Islamic fundamentalism in Somalia, asking, "What will grow from Somalia's anarchy? Have America's tactics boosted the chance for an Islamic state, a base for al-Qaida or both?

That question has been partially answered. In early June, an Islamic council seized power from U.S.-backed secular warlords. And on Sunday, June 25, the council announced that hardline cleric Sheik Hassan Dahir Aweys would head the council. Kevin interviewed Aweys for this article.

MOGADISHU, Somalia - He is nimble on his crutches, moving through the marketplace with a fluid but mechanical choreography of leg and poles.

He didn't see who fired the shot or where it came from, but 18-year-old Noor Malen doesn't believe it was intended for him.

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An interview with Aweys» View

It was 1993. He was just a boy, walking the streets near his home. He didn't feel the bullet hit his thigh, but remembers going down, then passing out. The round shattered the bone of his right leg, and doctors amputated it.

"I'm so very angry," he says. "I still have my friends, but nothing else. I can't walk freely, I can't carry things. I probably won't be able to get a job; the only thing I could do is be a watchman."

Like so many others here, frustrated by the violence and chaos of Somalia, Noor believes Islam can save him.

"I'd like to run an Islamic school someday," he says. "I think I would be good at it."

He also wants to see Somalia become an Islamic state, believing it would bring security and stability -- something he's rarely experienced in his young life.

"Things are so difficult here," he says, shaking his head. "There are 20 people in my family and they can't afford to support me. I only eat one meal a day, breakfast, then nothing but water."

Noor is symbolic, experts say, of what is happening in Somalia today. Fourteen years without a functioning central government and warlords' thugs ruling the streets have turned this land on the horn of Africa into fertile ground for Islamic fundamentalism.

Most of the women around Mogadishu observe strict Islamic dress, some covered head to toe, with only their eyes exposed. It's evidence, some say, of the growing influence of the fundamentalists. Before the beginning of the civil strife in the early '90s, dress was reportedly more relaxed.

Osman Hassan Ali Atto is a powerful warlord in his own right and a minister in the fractious and mostly absentee interim Somali government.

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Islam in Somalia» View

"If the lawlessness continues," Atto says, "yes, people will turn to religion."

And some of those religious organizations they turn to are alleged to have links to terror organizations like al-Qaida.

The largest and most well-funded, according to the terror watchdog International Crisis Group (ICG), is Al-Ittihad al-Islami, or the Islamic Union. It gained support and power after the fall of Somalia's ex-dictator, Siad Barre, in the early '90s.

It attempted to win over Somalis by providing humanitarian relief, schools and even security in some parts of the country, while at the same time spreading fundamentalist ideology. The United States claims that Al-Ittihad al-Islami is linked to al-Qaida through guns, money and training.

There are suspicions it has been involved in assassination attempts on rival Somali political leaders, the November 2002 attack on an Israeli-owned hotel in Kenya that killed 13, and a rocket attack that same day that narrowly missed an Israeli jetliner.

The United States lists Al-Ittihad al-Islami as a foreign terrorist group and has frozen its assets within U.S. jurisdictions.

Sheik Hassan Dahir Aweys is a leader of the group and was once a colonel in the Somali army. Aweys denies any al-Qaida connections, but does say he wants Somalia to become a theocracy.

"The only reason Western powers say that al-Qaida is in Somalia is because they are afraid that Somalia will become an Islamic state and they will do everything they can to stop that," Aweys says. "I believe there's not even one person in Somalia connected to al-Qaida. We are one clan, one color, one language. We would not accept foreigners (al-Qaida) here."

Aweys, with penetrating eyes and a red, henna-tipped beard, is deeply suspicious of Western journalists. I am just the second to interview him within his guarded compound in Mogadishu.

As I a set up my camera and tripod, he asks me if I am an American -- and a Jew. He looks at me askance, as if I were a spy, but consents to the interview anyway.

I ask him about the March 2005

United Nations report that claimed Somalia has become a haven for jihadists and has no fewer than 17 mobile terrorist training camps on its soil.

"The

FBI, people like you (journalists) and other groups who are often in the shadows always say al-Qaida is in Somalia," says Aweys, dismissively.

Interim President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed "also said two years ago there were al-Qaida training camps here. Well, the FBI came here, journalists came here and there were no training camps. It's just not true. We all know each other in Somalia. We would know if al-Qaida was here."

Aweys says he is, however, sympathetic to "jihads" being waged against Western forces around the world.

"If you lock a cat in a room all the time," Aweys says, "what do you think it will do? It's going to fight back."

He says he also supports Somalis who have gone to

Iraq to fight against Americans there.

"Islam is one body; if you're wounded in one place, you feel it everywhere. We all feel it when Americans kill Muslims," says Aweys. "I know in my heart I cannot accept when they say we must stay outside. Western countries fight to take what they want from us. We won't accept those conditions."

The U.S. response to the potential terror threat in Africa has been serious. In 2002 it created the Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA), a 2,000-strong outpost based in Djibouti.

And according to the ICG, the task force has put some Somali warlords, ex-military leaders and even Ethiopian security teams on the payroll to capture al-Qaida members operating in Somalia. The ICG says that as many as 12 suspected members are either dead or in jail.

In an interview from Djibouti, CJTF-HOA Spokesman Maj. Ron Watrous denied that the task force is involved in these operations. The mission, he said, is limited to humanitarian activities and to helping regional governments bolster their own security forces. The hope is that this will translate into progress in fighting the war on terror not just in Somalia, but in the entire horn of Africa.

"You don't have to physically go into Somalia to have an impact on Somalia itself," Watrous said.

But some critics say the plan is backfiring. They say Somalis -- already deeply suspicious of American intentions after the failure of Operation Restore Hope in 1993 and the 2003 invasion of Iraq -- feel it's a war being waged on Islam, not terror.

It's a problem that the task force acknowledges. "Yes, we are concerned (that the task force is not able to operate in Somalia)," Watrous said. "We do want to be able to communicate more effectively in the region."

In a news article in July, the ICG's Horn of Africa Director Mark Bryden said that U.S. support for factional leaders, surveillance flights over Somalia and the abduction of innocent people sometimes held for weeks is "wreaking havoc over the country... the measures may actually be increasing support for terrorism."

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Interview with Atto» View

Even some of America's closest allies, like Atto, are skeptical about the presence of al-Qaida operatives in Somalia.

"I don't believe [it] and I have not seen any al-Qaida cells in this country," says Atto, "but there are certain elements of so-called extremists that are taking advantage of the situation we are in."

In the Bakhaara Market, where I first met Noor, the young amputee, I see evidence of anger toward Westerners and Americans in particular.

Many shake their fingers and shout at me when I try to videotape them as I walk by -- a product of paranoia, an associate tells me. "They think you're going to show their pictures to the Americans, and they could be snatched up."

One older man, speaking in English, stands up when he sees me in the crowd.

"Tell Bush we're ready," he says. "Tell him we're ready to fight."

"Ready to fight, why?" I ask.

"Because he's attacking Muslims in Iraq; he'll come here too," he says.

Some groups like the ICG are encouraging the West to end the capture campaigns in Somalia and support for factional leaders, which adds to the divisiveness, they say. Instead, the ICG says, the West should focus on supporting the interim government that was formed in Kenya in 2004, but has yet to truly take power.

This backing, they say, will do much more to create stability and keep an Islamic extremist terror threat from becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.


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One older man, speaking in English, stands up when he sees me in the crowd. "Tell Bush we're ready," he says. "Tell him we're ready to fight." Say, that sounds a lot like our fearless leader King George II when he said "Bring it on!" So the gauntlet has been thrown. Ok all you red-state warrior superpatriots, I'll expect to see you down at the military recruiting stations tomorrow signing up for our next great military adventure. Get going now before someone starts to question your patriotism. One thing though, just a hint, the Somalis don't have much oil so it won't help you fill up your gas guzzling SUVs or monster trucks. Just thought you'd like to know. But don't worry about that too much. Just keep going on making bitter enemies for the USA one invasion at a time (or if you cut all public education funding, maybe two invasions at a time).
Posted by liberalnproudofit on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 7:30 PM ET
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This Perosn who is proud to be a liberal is forgeting that the whole FAILURE in Mogidishu was BIL CLINTON'S FAULT. You know this atitude that we think your unpatriotic is only founded in your individual actions. Do You Love Your Freedom? Do You Wanna Fight Them There Or Here? Do you even care that their freedoms are being trampled upon? Don't change the subject, If Your PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL than where is your liberal views on this. Does it sound like he's ready for diplomacy or maybe they'll like Great Satan if we give them Nukes. Bill Clinton ignored these issues and it sounds like you don't believe in the capibilites of our given leadership, or the future of our country that is why we say that you are unpatriotic. I shouldn't have to remind you that no matter who is in charge we have a better setup than anywhere else on the planet. If you don't believ me than name a place and go there and post something here when you get back. Try Tehran or Beijing. Oh Yeah if you do think it better, then stay there and good rediance...commie (sorry couldn't resist)
Posted by martinjecklin on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 8:18 PM ET
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Oh absolutely liberalnproudfoit. Let's wait until a mushroom cloud is rising over New York City before we see the error of pulling out our troops. Lets wait until 4 million people are infected with ebola before we stabilize Iraq. As long as we don't lose a few more soldiers, it's okay to have millions of dead later, isn't it? Liberal bastards like you piss marines like me off who die for their countries without being in the comfort of family like you. Go to hell.
Posted by fact_dl on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 8:41 PM ET
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We can never defeat an idea but we can beat those who stand behind that idea if we are willing to commit. Nazism as an idea is still alive, but those who supported it were crushed as they should have been. Can we kill this idea of Islamic fanaticism.... no. Does that mean that we shouldn't battle the people who would spread the death and destruction tied to this fanaticism?
Posted by robertonduty on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 8:55 PM ET
5
Let him make a trip to Darfur. He's so black the arabs would kill him quickly.
Posted by markjhannon on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 8:55 PM ET
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obviously this person does not know what he is taling about i was there don't believe what you read has never been more true
Posted by universal_shopping on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 10:22 PM ET
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Its interesting to see people blame Clinton. Actually, our original mission was under George the 1st. While his intension seemed honorable at the time, one notes the HQ for the effort was the compound of Conoco, not the US Embassy. Further, its well known at the time, US oil co's were exploring there and had signed contracts with Siad Barre. When Clinton took over, the UN wanted to go after the warlord Aideed. He had attacked UN troops, then attacked ours. Hence, Blackhawk down. The Somalis are very tough fighters. As any of our troops who served there will tell you. The congress at that time was not about to support an expanded effort in Somalia. Thus, Clinton had little choice but to bring the troops home. Remember, this was a short time after Rwanda. No one had the stomach for extended African conflicts. SteveJohnson
Posted by big9_57104 on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 11:00 PM ET
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U guys are some of those who still believe 9/11 was done by a few arabs? Ohh yeah, the guys who were claimed to be terrorists on 9/11 attacks still live in different countries and who knows maybe they are now planning to strike satellites and space stations. dont be stupid, when america attacked iraq, iraq had nothing to do with al-qaida. All america showed as reason for attack was that iraq had nuclear weapons( it was just a big lie revealed later)and ruled by a dictator and america would take freedom to iraq. (All he took there more deathes).Yea, I am sure american soldiers now keep the guys who plan to make a mushroom cloud on new york city in iraq. Otherwise, they would do that. Dear marine u are the guy your goverment extremely needs because you never need to use your brain as u never did. Stupid acts of bush administration made dozens of countries including european countries who have hard feelings against america and its people. If you think this is a problem about extreme islamists, u r wrong. Even moderate muslims and many of the christians dont appreciate US presence in iraq and most of them hate americans. If something is wrong it is wrong, to get this no need to be extremist or something else. You people, keep getting fat and considering being patriot is to suppress every idea and action in the world which american politics dont acknowledge and betrayer anyone who doesnt support these actions sincerely but when u start to think one day it might be too late to return back. Look at the economy in america and interest rates and the debt it has, then you will understand what I mean.
Posted by aragon2098 on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 11:07 PM ET
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I must remind that the Somalian conflict was not he fault of President Clinton it was the fault of George Bush Sr. as he initiated the conflict right before he left office trying to form a military outpost to gain position on Iraq's oil. If you find a mushroom cloud over NYC, the root cause will be the American governments habit of making enimies of soveriegn nations by tying to tell them who the have as head of state, what kind of government and weapons they can have ("Please Mr. Kim, although we are going to keep making and testing nukes and are the only country in the history of the planet who dropped nukes on two cities ofcivilians, you and the Iraqi government need to stop your nuclear programs") The Somalian campaign was initiated by Bush, typical of the glorious little wars initiated by republican regimees in the name of imperialism (stealing natural resorces of other countries) and White military supremacy. The Somalian campaign failed for the same reason the Vietnam campaign failed and the Iraqi campain is failing: the myth of the USA as a military juggernaut and a bunch of pissed off marines gettitng their asses kicked. I'll agree life is better in America than in a lot of those countries. Especially when you consider the American military presesnce in those countries are designed to rob for oil and other resorces rather that stand up for human rights. The Bush administration uses the "human rights of the Kurds" in Iraq as one of the reasons for being there. But has friendly relations with ones who commit genocide, the Sudanese government, in the name of oil and gum arabic. As far as is lslamic fanatacism, would you call the the Spanish inquisition, the Crusades and the Salem witch hunts Christionite fanatacism? People who follow Islam are Muslims, not Islamists. Any one who thinks otherwise may your superior religion and your White God bless and protect you.
Posted by rdavisbruner@sbcglobal.net on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 11:45 PM ET
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It seems that Mr.Aweys contradicted himself in his interview when he said that Somalis would not welcome outsiders like Al-Quaida yet he said later that he supported jihads and that Islam is one body and that where one part hurts the whole body hurts, so I can only suspect that he would openly support al-Quaida if he were to be come its theocratic leader.
Posted by cherrypieyes on Tue, Jun 27, 2006 1:07 AM ET

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